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I have to beg for stickas! Got 2 at EJ’s mug up this morning to make the “representin” photo and give to my friends Thomas and Ellen Winkler, who rowed the gigs Maritime Gloucester for years and moved back to Germany. Great people – they’ll never forget us!
I have sticas, thanks, but would like to get a print of your photo of our son in law, Peter Mondelo. Taken on Dec. 13, 2007: Img. 4 by captjoe06 How do we do that?
I would love to purchase 2 milkweed plants!
I love listening to the podcasts and hearing about the inside scoops on local music events (Peter and Vickie), interesting news about the city from Melissa Cox, all about North Shore Kid, and all sorts of good information. Its easy to listen to while doing other activities on my desktop, such as looking through the days photos or answering emails, and the audio quality on my mac is excellent.
Podcasts are awesome – listening as I work at my computer – so much great information I’m going to have to start taking notes!
Nice job guys! Just realized I can download then to the podcast app on my iphone and listen on the way to work. perfect.
Thanks I really enjoy making them!
The podcasts are fun, like being a silent observer of great conversations. You are right about there being so much to see and do in Gloucester, lots of layers. Carry on! I really enjoyed hearing Father Matthew today and feel he is in the right place for his year of introspection. Best wishes to him!
Another great podcast Joey! Great stuff Kim!
Thanks Craig. Joey makes it easy and fun. I am looking forward to your guest appearance!!!
Joey ginning up the “controversies” again. As Kim said, these are issues that are not resolved. If anyone who has been paying attention, GMO foods and coyotes are hotly debated because they are controversial and should be debated.
My take in a tiny nutshell: GMO foods: Today, 90% of the American public thinks GMO foods are awful frankenstein science lab experiments. and should be boycotted and banned. Since I genetically modify organisms in my day job I see the technique up close and personal and I believe GMO foods are safe and will add tremendously to our ability to feed the world more nutritious food. Google “golden rice” for an example that will save third world children from blindness and death because of vitamin A deficiencies if people would act rationally about GMO foods. Kim absolutely has a point that Monsanto has been the bad actor in GMO and should be regulated. Like any controversial topic, not black and white.
Coyotes or Coywolfs: Some people want to expand hunting to exterminate or control them. History and data show this does not work and is cruel. You kill one animal in a pack of coywolves and instead of just the alpha pair mating the entire pack starts mating. It is Darwin at its best reacting to an outside stimulus. You get more, not less. And the study I cited was from Maine. I believe the hybrid coywolf studies there are valid for Massachusetts since if you look from Halibut Point Maine is not that far away. One look at the animal on Cape Ann and it sure does not look like a coyote. The reason the 100 coyotes were studied there was Maine’s laws are more lax than Mass and they had 100 dead coyotes that were neck snared. (Neck snaring is banned virtually everywhere else.) Many of those animals had “jelly heads” which is caused by having the carotid artery compressed by the snare and their brains explode over a period of days. That is cruel. The scientist who conducted the study and who made the Maine wildlife laws the laughing stock of the nation (a quote from an Audubon article) is being relieved of his position in June.
So these topics are very controversial and should be debated. Joey is encouraging that debate. I hope.
Kim and I can continue a healthy debate over topics that should be debated or we can settle this at the Farm Bar and Grill at movie time. I’ve got two pair of boxing gloves. I can take her.
I don’t understand how protecting Coyote based on a study that said one single Coyote that had 90% mix and making them an endangered species would help control their population. (I’m basing this 90% thing off what Kim said in the podcast yesterday)
Another question I have is if I never saw them out and around roaming the streets in daylight until 5 years ago around here and now we see them regularly why they need to be protected?
Good questions, I think you are misrepresenting what Kim said. It isn’t from one animal that scientists have decided to call the eastern “coyote” coywolf.
http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.1656/045.017.0202
Rapid adaptive evolution of northeastern coyotes via hybridization with wolves, Biol. Lett. published online before print September 23, 2009, doi:10.1098/rsbl.2009.0575
Summary of a lot of papers: on average the rapid hybridization is about 30% wolf. That there are many coywolves above 50% and approaching 90% just shows the direction this hybridization is going. (Increasing and moving south to Cape Ann.) Darwin always wins. Survival of the most adaptive. The Wolf coyote hybrid is returning to fill the niche that was eliminated when the pilgrims on up killed all of the wolves. Nature abhors a vacuum and will fill it.
But my real summary: the hybridization studies are controversial. As Kim said, if these coywolves are identified as wolves they then might enjoy the same protection wolves have. So that controversy rages and scientists like Wally Jakubas lose their jobs for doing good science. The best studies are also expensive and complicated because nuclear DNA genetic testing costs money. I do that daily in the lab on mice and humans. The mtDNA studies are not as good but clearly show hybridization.
To your second question, why protect them if they are doing so well? A very good question. I don’t necessarily advocate blanket protection. But history has shown us that trying to control the population by snaring and hunting does not work. The population may actually increase. It might be better to have two stable coywolf dens on Cape Ann. Kill the alpha male and the pups all go into breeding overdrive. Actually, it has been shown that killing just one in the pack puts all of them into fecundity overdrive.
One thing you could do is go see some real wolves and learn about them. Go to Wolf Hollow in Essex on Memorial Day weekend where they are open all day for free.
http://www.wolfhollowipswich.org/
What we can all agree upon is the top predator coyote living in our midst is some part wolf, having interbred with a gray wolf in the Great Lakes region, which allowed the western coyote to withstand colder temperatures and migrate west to east. What has clearly not been determined is what percentage wolf. No one who is writing into this blog has suggested mass extermination of the coyote, however, if the coyote is determined to be more wolf than coyote, it will likely be placed on the endangered species list, which would eliminate the ability of people to hunt the coyote. Currently in Massachusetts, hunting season for coyotes begins after Columbus Day and ends in early March.
Here’s an amusing thought–by the same logic that because several hundred years ago Red Wolves once populated our region we should now allow coyotes indiscriminate run of our neighborhoods, the question bears asking, when geneticists recreate from DNA the saber tooth tiger and the wooly mammoth, should we allow these top predators indiscriminate run of our neighborhoods?
Reading this last comment from Paul–the third paragraph in not a logical leap.
“on average the rapid hybridization is about 30% wolf. That there are many coywolves above 50% and approaching 90% just shows the direction this hybridization is going.”
If at one point the coyote interbred with the the Gray Wolf and the majority are only 30 percent (as you say; I have read 20 percent), it would be more logical to conclude that as the coyote populations becomes more established in our region, the percentage of their wolf DNA would decrease, as there are currently no Gray Wolves in Massachusetts. They are rapidly adapting, as a result of hybridizing with wolves, they are not rapidly hybridizing with wolves.
To say that because ONE anomaly shows 90 percent, that indicates the direction of the hybridization, is simply not accurate or logical.
The title of the article that you quote is called: Rapid adaptive evolution of northeastern coyotes via hybridization with wolves
Clearly more research, by neutral parties, over a period of time, will hopefully be conducted.
I agree Kim that much more study needs to be done. Here is a quote from a conversation with Wally Jakubas where he pokes holes at his own DNA study (a trait of all good scientists). I would also add another possible huge flaw is that mtDNA studies are inherently flawed in coyote wolf studies because mtDNA is only transferred by the mother. The study that really cannot be done, how is the transfer made? My guess is initially it is mostly male wolf impregnating a female coyote. The offspring are 50% wolf but by mitochondrial haplotyping they are 100% coyote of course since no wolf mitochondria cross breed. It is only after a back cross when the hybrid offspring are big enough (more wolflike) where the male hybrid (which is still 100% mtDNA coyote) has sex with a female wolf. Only then will they show up in a study like Jakubas. (This is the kind of genetics I never get to do, bacteria, mice and humans have boring sex lives. But this kind of stuff is fascinating). This flaw would hold wolf percentages down in hybrids.
Nuclear DNA needs to be used. But no one has made a “wolf” or “coyote” panel of mutations to study (that I have found at least). That costs quite a bit in humans but the answer is tracking cancer which has the money for good reason (and keeps me employed). So, from Jakubas’ remarks, I gather the actual phenotyping of animals is an art. An art they are losing because people like Jakubas are being fired for talking about their science which is the worst part of controversies like this.
—————W Jakubas————
Jakubas and Wilson’s study proves that genetics aren’t necessarily reflected in what the animal looks like. Coyotes are supposed to be smaller, with little feet and shorter legs.
But the study included a 27-pound animal with 89 percent wolf genes. And several years ago, an 86-pound animal trapped in Maine was genetically identified as a coyote.
“The species may be evolving on its own. It’s getting further and further away from its [ancestry],” Jakubas said.
“You really have to consider an animal’s behavior and what it looks like, in addition to genetics, before you identify it,” he said.
I would also add that while I agree with Jakubas that mtDNA does not tell the story, nuclear DNA would. He needs a new collaborator who can do full genomic studies. Me. Because nuclear DNA does not lie.
Joey–do you mind adding this to the comment section–I don’t mean to misinform anyone about planting beans and need to clarify. I have fava beans on the brain researching the St. Joseph film project and that is the only beans that can be planted outdoors at this time of year. Nearly all other beans should be planted when the soil temperature is around 60 degrees, or around the last frost date for our region. Sorry if this was confusing to anyone who may have been listening. Thank you!
Joe…I don’t mean to “beat a dead horse”, but the Oakes Cove beach was never officially called Flynn’s beach…it was referred to that because Ed Flynn owned and lived in the house adjacent to the pathway down for many years, that said, I am sure that many of the Rocky Neckers, Kevin Douglass was a contemporary of mine, or the Publicovers who were involved there, will also remember that the artist Joe Jeswald, one of the founders of Montseratt Art College, in Beverly, lived there with his family before Ed Flynn, and nobody referred to it as Jeswald’s Beach…Ed was a colorful man, he is remembered fondly because he rode a horse into Kelleher’s Bar on election eve, when he was running for City Council…but, Flynn’s Beach, no matter how fondly remembered by some was never official. Thanks…
Great interview with Mayor Kirk–much fun to know how she came to Gloucester and how she met Bill!! And also so interesting to learn that since she came into office, Gloucester has been the recipient of over 20 MILLION dollars in grant money. Keep up the great work Mayor Kirk–we think you are awesome–and next time will cheer louder to drown out the naysayer
Love the Mayor Kirk interview. Great stuff.
Donna’s guest podcast is Donna, through and through–her love of Gloucester is palpable and vibrates through all she contributes to GMG. Some notable quotes from Donna, and reasons why i love her so much–
Her daughter calls her “a pessimists worse nightmare”
“Get that Cloud Away from Me!”
we at GMG are an “ecleptic” group
Thanks Donna for all your kind words-I am so proud to call you my friend.